I am getting a cart and i have heard from dealers that the twister is better but people that own carts say the dazons better and more realiable.A review said the dazons bolts & nuts loosen up. I AM VERY CONFUSED!!!!!!!!
I took my hammerhead to a shop to get fixed...long story. Anyway the guy had a Dazon there to compare. Most of the stuff looks the same. I assume it is all made in the same area of china and the factories buy the same components...mostly. We did notice a few things on the Dazon which looked more durable. Lights, brake res and the double chain setup. Also the Dazon had a radical pipe and afterarket filter. I am sad to say that I like the frame style and look of the Raider much better but who can tell from pictures!
P.S. My nuts and bolts loosend up on my twister. Just the way it is with theses types of things. Just apply a little lock tight and everythng stays snug.
I have a raider 150 for my son and it's great. We run it at the dunes all the time. It has the white bros. pipe, uni filter, jetted. I run 19" sandstar fronts, and turbo rear paddles. He can dune all over at 18 to 23 mph in the sand. I also tricked it out by adding aluminum side panels and a wing. This is the best cart in the industry. Sides and wing are custom made.
I would definately recommend the Dazon Raider!!! No comparison.....Dazon stocks parts in the US (readilly available), their customer service department is excellent, and they just plain build a better machine. I have driven both vehicles and I preferr the Dazon.
from what I have seen on the new Hammerhead carts is that they have lots of little bells & whistles, which means there are more things to break. I have a Raider and some of my friends and relatives have Carter or Hammerheads and all they do is b*tch about the dealers never having parts, or having to wait 6-8 weeks for the parts. Although all of these vehicles look the same and think have the same problems with having to tighten all the nuts & bolts after some abuse, I do have to give either my dealer or Dazon credit for always having the parts available. My longest wait for parts was only 2-3 days because my dealer didn't have the parts in stock, but Dazon mailed the stuff to us within a few days.
I was also trying to figure out if the KD-150F is just as good as the dazon raider of powersport SX because i am trying to get one of these go carts because they look kina cool but there are so many out there that i dont know what is what or if there all made by the same company or not because the KD-150F is only 1500$.
No those are not the same. I saw one and and although they look simular there are many differences. They just cut alot of corners to bring the price down and in the long run you will pay. Maybe if it is just for a little kid to ride on flat ground it will work but if you want any kind of performance then go with the Dazon. Better everything and a warranty for six months. As with anything else, you get what you pay for.
Having owned the hammerhead for nearly 11 months i can enlighten this topic a bit. i have the 2004 model and after driving it a bit( over 4 months or so) things started to go wrong such as the forward and reverse shift cable coming off because of vibration, a shock mount on the a-arm bolt backing off on the underside and coming off, the key switch malfunctioning, the master drive belt braking and the dealer not liking the sound of my engine, replaced it. after all of these first problems were taken care of by my dealer, which by the way had all of the parts in stock including the engine and i have not had a problem since. you are probably thinking that the hammerhead is a piece of s**t but i will give you the other side of the story. after doing my research on the buggies when i purchased it i was told that overall these machines are built for the younger riders not us old adrenaline junkies, by the way i'm 38 and drive mine hard but not to the point of abuse. a friend of mine purchased the dazon because of all of the problems i was having with mine and fancy that he a just as much problems as i did.
i think that given who is driving these most of the time us adults are used to having trucks and quads that just hold up better and expect these to be the same and they are just not built for how hard we drive them. keep in mind that those of us that own them know just how much they vibrate and parts are going to come loose.
as for modifications i have made i have piped and jetted it. but the best modification i have made is to put new tires on the rear. i swapped out them with the duro's along with aluminum rims as my model came with steel. the combonation of the new Quad style and the lighter rims made a huge difference in my climbing and riverbottom sand abilities ( we live in AZ) no longer was i spinning in the sand. what was also not mentioned on this topic post is the different motors. what i mean by this is this. the original motor was a 150cc 10 hp motor but the 2005 has the same specs but has much more torque and balls. nowhere on the tjpowersports website does it mention that. too bad because when the new one was put in it made a huge huge difference to the performance.
do you think i am better off bilding my own because i am capable of building the frame and assembling everything on a go cart would a 16hp tecummings engine have more torqe than a 150cc one like on the dazon because i am going to be riding in the pine beerings i found a really cool frame manual on the internet for a full suspension go cart it is called the SHREDDER II Buggy/Kart you can put a 30hp engine on it but it only comes with the plans.
Building buggys is alot deeper than the ability to build. Suspension symetry and consumer testing is a major part. For what u spend building and working out the kinks, U can buy an awesome Honda Pilot. 45 hp and tested for over a decade.
Yeah right! Been trying to get part for a Pilot and they are outrageuosly priced. Parts are becoming rare and people are taking advantage. Nobody is making these parts anymore so you have to get way over priced ones or used crap. Plus a good pilot is going to set you back about $5000. Building a cart is hard if you don't have the skills or tools but it is fun if you know how. If not get a Dazon and you will have a solid buggy for a small price.
One thing that i am afrade about is does it have enough power to go up steep hills and handle the tarrain in the pine beerings because i live in nj i want a go car that will have good pickup speed and a top speed of 40mph would the full hop up kit do that for mr if i got the go cart because i was thinking of putting a 16hp vtwin biggs&stratton motor on it if i was going to build a go cat?
What part are you lookin for? Most parts are still available through honda, and no more expensive than any other quad parts. As for the 5000 price, just remember, you get what you pay for. Have probably spent that much on my dazon by now and its broke again. Been waiting over a month for a strut. Just an example. Paid $48 for brake pads for pilot,many riding hours and still good. Paid $28 dollars for dazon pads, and have bought 2 sets and need another in the same amount of time. Which one is cheaper? By the way, its all about perfofmance.Don't care what kind of hop up you do to the dazon, The pilot out-performs in every aspect.
I don't let my kids ride the pilot, and the dazon is great for them, but no adult should expect a hill climbing, dirt stomping, terrace jumping, adrenlin rush from a dazon. It's just not there!
By theway,if your looking for pilot parts, I take it you have one? Wanna sell it?
P.S. Only paid 3000 for mine. Still had original tires with no fender cracks, seat tears, or any other blemishes. Motor even had never been touched! Paid more than that for the slowzon.
I had a buggy built once. Frame and suspension with no engine set me back $6000. It didn't handle worth a crap. Know what he means about suspension symmetry.
Blades are worthless. I bought one but it is slow. My buddy has a Dazon and his seems stronger of the line and faster down the stretch. Could just be these two carts but who knows.
Not sure about the carb jets. I heard that Dazon has upgraded them even on the stock carts but I don't know when that started. He does not have the pipe yet but plans on getting it. The stock pipes seem weenie but I suppose they need to get through the regulations especially out here in California.
I found out y the dazon 150r accelerates faster than the blade. Because the blade has 22 inch and the dazon 150r has 19 inch so it would accelerate faster thanks the blade.
Tire sizes have alot to do with accelleration when you are dealing with manual shifting machines, but the CVT drive system overcomes most of this.Actually, the driven pulley is the only one effected by tire size. The faster they spin, the faster the driven clutch gears up, or goes to a higher range. Tires with smaller diamater spin faster, so the effect is overcome because in turn, the pully opens to a higher range faster, thus cancelling out any effect the smaller tires might have. Make sense?
